the Balladeer

This group is meant for anyone with a profound love for, or anyone who loves to sing the irish ballad. As badge for this group I uploaded a pic of Luke Kelly, balladeer. This should say enough about what I have in mind, I think...Luke Kelly and Ronny Drew were, so to speak,  "My Founding Fathers" concerning Irish music, and I fear we will never see their likes again...Anyway, if Sean Nos is not entirely your thing, and you want to talk Dubliners, Paddy Reilly or the Fureys kind of stuff, this is the place :-) Welcome to my virtual pub !!

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New Ballad set list

Started by Peter Keenan. Last reply by Kees Knegt Dec 4, 2013. 2 Replies

Hi AllI am presently compiling a new set list after being absent for a few years, its being drawn from Christy Moore, Dubliners Fury's, Johnny McEvoy, Pogues, and a scatter of other fine troubadors.…Continue

Who's YOUR "Founding Father" ?? (or Mother:-)

Started by Kees Knegt. Last reply by Kees Knegt Apr 25, 2013. 9 Replies

As i told earlier, I started my "life" in irish trad almost exclusively on "the Dubs" and the Corries. "t Was only some years ago that I discovered "Transatlantic Sessions" and "the Highland…Continue

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Comment by Mike O'Laughlin on March 4, 2013 at 21:15

The old schools and education crumbled away in the 1600s; but used to be you learned your 50's - that was something like 50 verses x 3 songs or recitations to graduate to a certain level.  All memorized, but things fell apart quickly and definitions and status changed - balladeer would have been something of a combination of the Irish and English ways when found in Ireland. I would think... but I'm too comfortable here in the pub to perfect that thought !

Comment by Kees Knegt on March 4, 2013 at 21:04

OK Mike, I hereby appoint you the man of the lights :-)

Comment by Mike "Ormepipes" Orme on March 4, 2013 at 19:46

Hiya Kees,

Not sure I can add much to a group concerned with ballads. Particularly as I can't sing a note and you will already have all the whistle solo's sorted!!

I can however sit at the back and heckle occasionally. And If your actually converting it into a pub, I may well be the last man out!



Comment by Kees Knegt on March 4, 2013 at 19:38

Hi Mike,

Just did some googlin around, and the origin of the word Balladeer seems to be somewhere around 1630-1640, but I suppose the origins stretch back much further in the form of the minstrel or troubadour....and yes, the Dubs had the right touch, in the sense that they were very much down to earth, and that their songs are not "overdone"...It is what it is, and that's it...When I listen to e.g. Lunasa's whistleplaying, it's mindboggling, but it's complete overkill, where John Sheahan is a highly skilled player too, but embellishing tastefully...And Ronnie and Luke and Barney...ha, what can you say...I think they had the X-factor that nowaday everyone seems to be looking for....

Comment by Mike O'Laughlin on March 4, 2013 at 19:02

Hello Kees !  When do you reckon the start of Balladeering was..... and same for me on discovering the Highland Sessions only a few years ago.... always felt the Dubs had the right style for song

Comment by Kees Knegt on March 4, 2013 at 14:52

Hiya Mike and Loic! Welcome to the pub :-) 


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